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Post by 2theresa2 on Jul 23, 2014 16:48:51 GMT -5
Hi, I am searching for family of my Great Grandpa Edward P. Davis Chippewa nation, I found his sister Margaret died at the school at age 16, I am trying to find out if she is among the students buried at the School. I can not find his Brother Joe either. My GG Grandmother Nancy I believe died in 1880 and my GG Grandfather Samuel might have remarried I have pictures of who I believe to be his sister in later years. They lived in Isabella, Michigan on reservation. Is there a way to find out their Indian names? Any help would be wonderful... Thank you in advance. I am hoping I have some relatives out there and hopefully some info... Theresa
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 24, 2014 20:36:58 GMT -5
hello and welcome to our web site Theresa.
do you know the name of the reservation in Michigan where your ancestors lived?
Can I rightly assume that the ggrandparents were the parents of your gr. grandpa, or of your gr. grandma?
I will see what I can find. please post whatever additional info you have on them,s it may help with my search.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 24, 2014 20:53:36 GMT -5
2Theresa2: hre's link to the burials at te Carlisle Indian School Cemetery. I fond out that the Cumberland historical Society has the listing of the burials in their manuscript section. they are listed by name ,Tribe, and date of death. there 227 burials, plus 27 unknown. of there, 187 were fthe school, plus 10 of the 27 unknown. yes Margaret s buried there. she died on Dec.31,1882. An Elsie Davis is also buried there,died july 16,1892.Find A Grave volumnteers recorded the burials. The historical society charges for the information. Culd not find Joe Davis,. he may bein one of the unknown graves. www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=cr&CRid=1993028 |
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Post by 2theresa2 on Jul 25, 2014 18:18:06 GMT -5
Hermin1, Thank you for your info, I now have Margaret Davis's info. My line goes as follows my Great Great Grandfather is Samuel Davis born 1845 on reservation Isabella, Michigan. Not sure of date he died? He married Mancy? Not sure of maiden name.or her Native name,had a son Joe born 1869 on reservation Isabella, Michigan can not find anything on him, Margaret born 1875, then my Great Grandpa Edward P. Davis born 2 Feb 1877 on reservation Isabella, Michigan he attended Carlisle Indian School I have the copy of records from the School,my Great Great Grandmother Nancy according to records died between 1880-1889, I am not sure if he remarried I have found a Samuel Davis that married a Eliza and had Martha and Tompkin.( Not sure if he is my Great Great Grandfather.) My Great Grandpa Edward is my Dad's Father's Father. I hope I explained clearly I am fairly new at this. Any help would be great especially with helping find their Native names, and Clan/Band Chippewa nation I can not seem to find much of anything before 1880. Thank you for your help in advance, have a Blessed Day. Theresa
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 25, 2014 20:28:06 GMT -5
t: thank you for the additional information. you have a heritage you can be proud of. as for the records, it is difficult if not impossible, to find records prior to 1885, but there are records. I spent yesterday looking for the records re. the burials at the School cemetery. Now I can widen m,y search to see what else I can find for you. Cross your fingers. ________________________________________ Theresa below are links to Isabella Saginaw Chippewa of which your ancestors were members. I am puzzled at not being able to find anything on your gggrandpa and family at ancestry.com I did find an 1880 US Census for Isabella County,Michigan and found them listed: Samuel age 35 b. Mi parents b. Mich. Occup. farmer nancy age son32 wife Iva age Age 11 margarett age 5 yrs Edwar age 3 on the same census, I found 2 orphans: margarite and Edward davis. www.mifamilyhistory.org/isabella/1880isabella.htm___________________________ I don't know whow they were related to Samuel but I found other s with Davis surname in that county in the burial records: Levii davis and wufe Josephine Davis, Henry Davis,P. Homer and wife magdalen, |
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 25, 2014 23:51:15 GMT -5
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 26, 2014 0:30:26 GMT -5
I would also suggest that you contact the Saginaw Chippewa Tribal office. Just google the name of the tribe to get the website for the contact info. Remember do not call them, write a letter telling who you are, how you are related to the people you seek information on, and what information you need.
also contact NARA for possible heirship report on your gggrandpa.
give his English name, tribal affiliation, and what reservation he lived on. if they have info they will tell you what they have, and how much it will cost.yYou can charge it to your credit card to get faster resu;llts.
the contact is maryfrances.ronan@nara.gov
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 26, 2014 3:03:51 GMT -5
Theresa:I FOUND A BETTER COPY OF THE 1880us CENSUS FOR ISABELLA, mICH.
iVE IS ACTUALLY THE BROTHER jOE DAVIS.
I CHECKED THE OTHER Indian SCHOOLS AND COULD NOT FIND JOE AT ANY OF THEM.
I also could not find any Indian names for any of your ancesttors.
I suspect that Samuel may have been baptized Christian as a baby or young child, and that he had his chil;den baptized as well. I am sorry I do not have access to church records for Isabella,to do a search for them.
if they were baptized Catholic, then you would need to google native indian churches, Isabella,Michigan ands ee what you come up wit.
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Post by 2theresa2 on Jul 26, 2014 13:29:13 GMT -5
Thank you so much for the info I will do as you suggested I might have a few more questions about all I need to do. You found a bit more than I did Thank you. I did see that Edward and Margaret were living with a Samuel Dagg when they were young. Have a great weekend. I might be the only off spring seeing how 2 generations were only children, Margaret died young and no info on Joe. Was really hoping to find some cousins...Theresa
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 26, 2014 14:48:53 GMT -5
Theresa I haven't given up[ the search. When I do a search, I am like a flea on a dog, it won't let go. hahaha
I think the problem is in knowing which of the BIA Agencies the census reports for Isabella Chippewa were under, so Ancestry can find the records.
Theresa I don't know if your dad is still alive ,but I found an Edward Davis in his 20, living in the household of Frank Franciscus(sp.).occupation; Servant. if your dear dad is still living ask if he ever was a servant for this family.
I also found a Tonkin Samuel Davis, born Mar.8,1888 in Michigan, who registered for the draft for WWI from Powhaton(sp),VA.
did your parents live in Isabella,or elsewhere? This will help me to reack him back.
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Post by 2theresa2 on Jul 26, 2014 16:08:19 GMT -5
my Father has just passed away, m great grandpa Edward P. Davis at age 19 was a barber in alma, Michigan he sent his picture back to the Carlisle school they all lived in Isabella,michigan, have a copy of him signing up for the draft card, that is why I thought maybe Samuel remarried Thank you
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Post by 2theresa2 on Jul 26, 2014 18:13:19 GMT -5
DAVIS, Sam - an Indian, died 8 May 1896 in Isabella Co., MI.
DAVIS, Mrs. Samuel. Died Apr 1880 in Reservation, MI.
I found this the dates are about right for Nancy passing and for Samuel
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 27, 2014 0:35:25 GMT -5
Theresa: I agree with you about the dates.
I believe I found Eliza's Indian name:NAN GAW SE GAY
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Post by 2theresa2 on Jul 27, 2014 8:19:04 GMT -5
Thank you for helping me.... :-) Theresa
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 27, 2014 15:53:47 GMT -5
Theresa: let us know if you have any questions and/or need more help.
I checked out Alma's records, and couldn't find anything on your gr. grandpa.
Theresa, have you considered placing an ad in the Isabella newspaper re.your ancestors with request for information on them, and possible other living descendents? Don't include the mailing address, just your email address in the ad.
you have a beautiful avatar.
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