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Post by sharonz09 on Mar 18, 2008 14:32:33 GMT -5
Hermin1, My father was Valentino Zephier and his mother Mary Crow Lightning Zephier and her mother was Sophia Winona Lightning and her mother Owaci and father Tateyuhomni, William Walker is listed with her in Santee and his father is Jacob Walker.
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Post by sharonz09 on Mar 26, 2008 12:52:31 GMT -5
Hello Hermin 1, can you find out what these names mean or who do i ask? Tateyuhomni and Tateyuhamani what are these names in english? SZ
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Post by hermin1 on Mar 26, 2008 15:10:57 GMT -5
sharonz09: Tate means wind. but I don't know about therest of the name.
write to Louis Garcia at Louis_Garcia@littlehoop.edu and ask for his help. He is an expert on translating these Dakota names.
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Post by sharonz09 on Apr 18, 2008 14:43:19 GMT -5
Hi Hermin 1, Just wandering if you seen anymore on Sophia Lightning, or on her son Paul James aka Pretty Feather she is listed on his death certificate as Sophia Hoffman and I know for a fact Owaci is not listed anywhere on the Santee registers the last place i might be able to find her is in Wisconsin. Do you have anything from there? thank you, or can any help me! sharonz09
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Post by hermin1 on Apr 19, 2008 16:58:13 GMT -5
I do not have anything on Owaci from Wisconsin.sorry.
As for Louisa , the wife of Daniel Graham, her parents weere Ehief Redowl and Tatehuidewin. Nice try here, but no cigar.
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correction. I apologize for the statement about the cigar. I realize that you are frusrated. I am just as frustrated. i can't find the source of the information re. who owaci's father was.
I too can't find anything on anna re. where she died or when.
what you will need to do is do a search for information on her last husband. this should tell you where she was last.
You have to go by the probate you sent me. You can't change your genealogy. Your parents are who you say they were.
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surely whatis in the rest of the probate that yu did not send me , there are some clues you can follow.
given that sophia or winona's father was Tateyuhomni, there may be something in the pre-1862 annuity rolls from Minnesota that may tell you if sophia hd any siblings in Minesota.
I am thinking that owaci was at Santee when she died. but unfortunately I can't find any death record for her.
You might ask Jimmy at Oyate if thereis an 1878 Santee Census. According to C.anderson's dissertation, by 1878 Jacob was married to a woman and had 9 children, in that 1878 Census.
the reason beig that he did nt leave Santee until 1880.
that is also why you need to contact the prairie Island BIA and get jacob's probte or contct winnebago BIA by letter and request William Walker's probate, since he was sophia's half -sibling..
I don't know where else to search.
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Post by sharonz09 on Apr 22, 2008 9:46:53 GMT -5
Well so sorry for bothering you and as far as Louisa I'm not worried about her, alot of the census they have some of them are incorrect or they have people mixed up why they have Owaci and Acaksin down as parents no cigar there! thanks
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Post by hermin1 on Apr 22, 2008 12:12:58 GMT -5
Hi Hermin 1, Just wandering if you seen anymore on Sophia Lightning, or on her son Paul James aka Pretty Feather she is listed on his death certificate as Sophia Hoffman and I know for a fact Owaci is not listed anywhere on the Santee registers the last place i might be able to find her is in Wisconsin. Do you have anything from there? thank you, or can any help me! sharonz09 ________________ Paul James was married to Nina Brown ,d/o James and Amanda Brown. Nina and Paul had a son Roy James. Nina died on Mar. 18, 1909. What you need to find is Sophia's daughter Anna 's birth/baptismal certificate, her marriage records and her death certificate,which may have the name of her father on it. the name Hoffman would logicically be on Anna's records since her mother, sophia was first married to a Hoffman. Thus anna's maiden surname would be Hoffman. Why Hoffman is listed on her(Sophia's) death certificate is a mystery to me, because Hoffman was her married name not her maiden name. |
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Post by hermin1 on Apr 22, 2008 15:21:58 GMT -5
another thing is didn't Jacob Walker have another name by Acaksin? _________________________--- sharonz: i am beginning to wonder about this. You may be right about him possibly going by another name. if that is the case then our first assumption ould be correct, that sophia and William were indeed half siblings. |
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Post by sharonz09 on Apr 24, 2008 9:36:37 GMT -5
Hermin i just wanted to let you know that i read about John and Jacob Walker being in Minnesota that was when i found out that Jacob went by Acaksin, I also know that they went by other Indian names also I think John Walker had about three of them he is listed with two on that list of condemned.
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Post by hermin1 on Apr 24, 2008 16:04:07 GMT -5
sharon. great.
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Post by sharonz09 on Sept 4, 2008 15:30:30 GMT -5
Hey Hermin 1, I have a question for you, i read on the Hoffman surname and you have Mary Hoffman with a daughter named Anna Hoffman, i don't know if you remember but my gr. grand mother had a daughter named Anna Hoffman she is in her probate, also you stated that Mary Hoffman ( Nagi ) something, mother is some how related to the Walkers, So is Mary Hoffman Walker the same person who was married to Jacob Walker Acaksin?
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Post by hermin1 on Sept 5, 2008 16:21:27 GMT -5
dear sharonz:
You were right about at least John walker going by another name. he also has been confirmed as going John ironday( Correction: he went by John Greyday). He married Petayuhewin and they had a daughter Jane who married Duncan Stone(s/o Martha Stone and Wasuhdega who I just found out was the brother of Paul Mazakute). (Additional Information)they also had a daughter,I think, named Elizabeth Brant.
Mary Hoffman and Nagiwicakte also had a daughter(Margaret Hoffman, who married Paul Mazakute. small world isn't it?
Yes jacob Walker married Mary Hoffman after her husband Nagiwicakte was killed(He had been identified as one of the Indians who instigated the 1862 Uprising).
John and Jacob Walker's mother was Mazaiyahdewin,who was a sister to Joh Kangimdoka's mother Waskachaska.i haven't been able to find out however, who their father was. they also had a sister Sarah Walker.
what has me puzzled, sharonz is who is this Nagi that Jacob married @ 1866=67?it couldn't have been Marry Hoffman, as he didn't marry her until sometime between 1880 and 1885 in wisconsn or Minnesota.
I have been told that jacob walker may have also gone by the name william Hoffman. but haven't been able to find anything to confirm this.
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