If you are looking for the parents of Paul Lawrence, you should send away for his death certificate. This should list his parent's names. You can also look for an obituary through the MN hist. soc. Here's where you get the death certificates-
one of John bluestone's daughters, Annie married ? Lawrence.Unfortunately I don't know what his firstname was. (Update: annie maried John Lawrence. see below) The Paul Lawrence that I have, is on the 1926 Pipestone Ind. Census,. He is listed as born 1870, and has two daughters Beatrice born 1908 and Agnes born 1906. there apparently are 2 Rose Whipples, and the one I may be yours.this one I have was born1886 @ Prairie Island,MN, or WI. she had siblings lena Whipple-Campbell, Louis, Thomas,Jr.,John, and Harry. their parents were Thomas Whipple and Annie Tiyopamazawin. Rose(Rosa) was married to ? Lucas, and then to ? Blower.I have not found any records of her Living in Nebraska at Santee Res. She did have at least a daughter, Beatrice Lucas(1922 Pipestone Ind. Census). her sister Lena was married to Joseph Campbell,son of Antoine Joseph and Mary Ann Gardner.Antoine Joseph was son of Antoine Scott campbell and Margaret Menager. _______ Please, please register so you can post the information we need: when did your grandma Pauline die? when was she born?
_________ Update; I apologize for my flubbomg. Annie Bluestone could not be Paul's mother, as she would have been only 6 or 7 (born@ 1863 or 64), when Paul was born.
i know about the 1934 Dakota Base roll. Rose w. Lawrence was her mother, and Beatrice Lucas was her half sister. the W. in Rose's name is her maiden name-Whipple!!! Paul lawrence was first wed to Elizabeth ? and they had the children that vicky found above. Rose was his second spouse. I found Paul at age 15 living with John Bluestone and his family(1885 Minn. State and Territorial Census). No relationship listed. vicky did gfind him with John bluestoene and family ont he Mdewakanton 1886 list as John's grandson. i haven't been able to find anything on paul in the Santee, Ind. Censuses. so what you need to do is contact NARA and see if he had any heirhsip papers. contact: MaryFrances.Ronan@nara.gov give her his name, when he died, and his tribal affiliation(Mdewakanton sioux of Minnesota. cost is 15 dollars for 1-15 pages, and 75 cents per each additonal page copied. another person who may be able to hlep is Big Jon brings the Horses. You may be able to find him listed as a member at the Oyate Research Center website, in the Members listing. find his username(BigJon)and send him a PM. He knows about the Lawrences and big thunders. He may know something about Paul's parents.
_______ My gut hunch says that Paul's mother Louise must have been the daughter of John Bluestone.
I don't know who Charles Lawrence's parents are.in that sociological study mentioned above, charles was 53 yrs old. so he was probably born @1849 In Minnesota.
tokanowan, I agree it is confusing. We are still searching.According to the records, Beatrice had the Lucas surname. so she could not have been Paul's child, unless rose and Paul were intimately involved while Rose was married to ? Lucas.all I know is that is what both the Pipestone and 1934 Dakota Base rolls list for Beatrice, that she was a Lucas.
i think I have found paul's father and mother: charles and Louise lawrewnce,formerly of flandreau. Paul was their oldest child. His siblings were Frank who was living at birch Cooley, Minnnie, who moved to Sisseton from Flandreau,Josephine, Anna, Edward and Benjamin.Charles Lawrence was born 1846 Minn. wife Louise was born 1856 MN. they had a totaL of 11 children but only 4 were living((1900 us Census, Paxton ,Redwood,MN). __________________ Reference is Sociological Study of the Flandreau Indians. BIA/Dept. of the Interior. Dec. 16,1902: pp 13-14. " Elizabeth W. lawrence 24 yrs. old lives at Birch Cooley,Minn. her husband is paul lawrence, the oldest son of charles lawrence, but he isnot enrolled here, but may be at Birch Cooley." "Anna Lawrence is a daughter of Charles Lawrence. has been at Riggs institute, but is now excused on account of weak eyes.
As the 1900 Census above indicates, Charles and some of his family must have left flandreau and moved to Minnesota.
Anna Bluestone married John Lawrence and hthey had several children. I am sorry I can't find out what charle larence's wife Louise's maiden name was. I don't see any Louise Bluestone listed under the Bluestones in my records.
i think I have found paul's father and mother: charles and Louise lawrewnce,formerly of flandreau. Paul was their oldest child. His siblings were Frank who was living at birch Cooley, Minnnie, who moved to Sisseton from Flandreau,Josephine, Anna, Edward and benjamin.Charles lawrence was born 1846 Minn. wife Louise was born 1856 MN. they had a totaa of 11 children but only 4 were living((1900 us Census, Paxton ,Redwood,MN).
Hey hermin1, we have that census already. It only lists Paul, his wife and Clarence. What is your source for the parents of Paul, please. Thanks!! :-)
Oh, you were related, for sure. The 1886 McLeod Mdewakanton census clearly states that Paul was a grandson of John Bluestone. We just need to figure out which daughter of John's was Paul's mother. You might clear this up in a few days if the death certificate lists Paul's parents. I'd send off for that first. It's a whole lot cheaper than ordering probates which would be your next move. :-) Here's a clip from that census-
I find some Lawrence folks at Bloomington in 1880. Charles and Louisa who hermin1 says are Paul's parents. (waiting for documentation) John and Anna. Anna who was a Bluestone?? I do not find Paul with either family. In fact, I don't find Paul anywhere in 1880. He would be about 10 years old. I checked the Carlisle and Santee Normal school student rosters thinking he was away at school, but no luck. Here's the 1880-