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Post by hermin1 on Jul 31, 2007 23:28:15 GMT -5
At last! I was able to upload the Frazier Tree that I mentioned ina previous posting.
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Post by hermin1 on Jul 19, 2008 11:27:57 GMT -5
As the data at the top of the page indicates, this was sent by the Dakota Assoc.
Sophia Frazier also went by the name Sarah sophia Frazier. I had taken notes from a probate for ASarah robinson that had all of the family data for sArah sophia Frazier and her family and descendants. a had thought that the information on sophia on the Tree was inaccurate. so i searched through records and contacted various sources. I am relieved to say that yes sArah Sophia Frazier was Cetanwicakte's wife. she appears to have been marriedthrice: Cetanwicakte9died 1862), Wapaye who died in 1873. she wed him at ft. Snelling in 1863, and he died 1873, and finally Tatehiyadan(flying Eagle).
what i and my consultants think happened is the BIA got Sarah sophia Frazier mixed up with Srah robinson who died around the same time at Santee.hence the goof.
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Post by hermin1 on Jun 10, 2009 16:08:24 GMT -5
Sophia frazier was a sister of Joseph "Jack" Frazier. How about that? ___________update: The Sophia Frazier that married Cetanwicakte was Joseph Jack's Daughter ,not his sister. But joseph jack did have a full sister named Sophia Frazier. what happened to her ,nobody knows.
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Post by Kermit frazier on Nov 24, 2012 16:42:07 GMT -5
how would i go about fixing the mix up with Sarah Sophia Frazier?
lot and Rebbecca got married in 1888. Lot went after his mother in Minnesota she was up there visiting family. Sarah got sick and died that year. i heard this story from my grandmother Rose Blue stone many years ago. she was visiting John Frazier her brother at the time while she was in Minnesota.
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Post by hermin1 on Nov 24, 2012 19:07:48 GMT -5
thanks for the information on Lot Frazier's mother.
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Post by KERMIT FRAZIER on Nov 24, 2012 19:23:47 GMT -5
Saul mewaxcedapi age19 wife Isabella ickogne age 17. the father for Saul was nagiwicakte and the mother was tateiciiunwima. looking at the Hoffman line i did not find a Saul? i assumed this was Maggie mazakute brother. do you have any information on him? see marriages holy name vol 1 that's where i found him and a lot of the family. i am very interested in the Hoffman information.
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Post by hermin1 on Nov 25, 2012 9:47:34 GMT -5
Again I am advising you to obtain the heirship report for Maggie Mazakute-Whipple. that is where you will find the information on her family history.
i can only guess that margaret(wife of paul mazakute and Benj. Whipple was given the surname Hoffman when she was baptized. The same would go for her brother Saul, whom you found in the Register book 1, of church of the Holy Name at Choteau Creek. Rev. Aiton in his 1849 census of chief Redwings band listed Cetanwicakte as having 2 wives(you'll find the article in the Family Tree section on page 4 or 5). most of the sioux were wed by Indian custom back then. so it is not improbable that nagiwicakte may have wed nagi(Nagiskanskansawin) in Minn. by Ind. Custom also. i have,as you yourself mentioned, been told that Maggie's surname was Hoffman, and that her father was Nagiwicakte, and the testimony re. Two Crow ,also indicated that maggie's mother was Nagi. Without seeing the actual marriage record you say you have for Maggie and paul Mazakute,i can only go by the documentation i have,that Nagi was her mother, Nagiwickte was her father. that was a good find re. her brother Saul.
After his release from prison, Jacob Walker aka Acaksin wed Nagi by ceremony at Santee(J.P. Williamson Journal)and they had a son William , and a daughter Anna. Then they separated.jacob and his brother moved to Wisonsin with their common wife Sarah. They were reunited by 1885 when Jacob and his brothe,r John Walker moved to Minnesota from Wisconsin.
None of the Hoffmans that I have found so far, have a common ancestor. __________________ Update: Correction i apologize for my goof, I meant to write Nagiwicakte was on Aiton's 1849 and 1850 Census of Redwing Band, not Cetanwicakte.
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Post by kermit frazier on Nov 27, 2012 19:57:03 GMT -5
Hermin i went back and looked at the information that Aiton gave in 1849. i did not find a cetanwicakte on his list. i did find Nagiwicakte having 3 wife's and 1 child. and the other was najiwacakte have 2 wife's. but no cetanwicakte.
Hermin i think some time ago on a census i saw Mazakute 1 man 1 woman and 4 children. i am in search for that paper some where in my things. i think it was before 1864 . that would lead me to believe that Paul Mazakute and Panna were Married already in Indian custom.
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Post by kermit frazier on Nov 28, 2012 14:07:37 GMT -5
Hermin do you have the information on Jacks sibblings to how many he had? would you be willing to share your doc with me for our family infromartion? you have my information if you do decide to share. thanks Hermin you have been a lot of help to me in pushing forward to finding your family line.
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Post by hermin1 on Nov 28, 2012 15:04:16 GMT -5
Hermin i went back and looked at the information that Aiton gave in 1849. i did not find a cetanwicakte on his list. i did find Nagiwicakte having 3 wife's and 1 child. and the other was najiwacakte have 2 wife's. but no cetanwicakte. Hermin i think some time ago on a census i saw Mazakute 1 man 1 woman and 4 children. i am in search for that paper some where in my things. i think it was before 1864 . that would lead me to believe that Paul Mazakute and Panna were Married already in Indian custom. ______________ oh Dear, I goofed. I am so sorry,I meantto say Nagiwicakte was Aiton's List . Nagi or Mary Nagikanskansawin is listed also on that census, as Nagi, and by herself. Please note that there was a Mazakute who @the 1830's or 40's, was accused of killing a whiteman, and taken to St. Louis to be tried for the murder. when the trial came about, noone testified against him, so he was released. he was on his way back to Minnesota when he was killed by hostiles o another band.(So. Dak. Hist. Collections. Vol. II.1904). Paul Mazakute was born @1842 MN, died 1873 NE. In all probability ,Paul and Maggie could indeed have been wed by Ind. Custom before they were wed by ceremony. quite a few of the Dakota Sioux were married by Ind. Custom ,then by Ceremony.
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Post by hermin1 on Nov 28, 2012 15:24:27 GMT -5
Kermit: Re. Joseph jack's Siblings, all I have is what I have already posted for you on this site., which I got from rreferences,that I found online.
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Post by Kermit frazier on Nov 28, 2012 16:36:08 GMT -5
Hermin thanks for all the good ideas and the direction that you have given. My father started to write a book years ago. he was going to call it the five books of Mazakute. but he had passed before he could see his work completed. My father told in his book of Paul going to Washington DC with his father. we always heard that there was two mazakute and we are trying to get my fathers work completed some day. lots of work to do with his paper's.
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Post by kermit frazier on Nov 28, 2012 20:07:33 GMT -5
Hermin i read that John smith Parents are Emma Godrey and Wakanhdihota? do you have any information on them?
i see on the Santee Mission Register Book 1 there is four Smith with Family's 1) john smith wife Sarah. John was 28 2) Stephen Smith wife Isabella. Stephen age 26. 3) Amos Smith wife Rebecca Amos age 56 4) Daniel Smith Wife Emma and grandmother Ptesanwin. Damiel age 33. are this all brothers?
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Post by hermin1 on Nov 29, 2012 13:37:31 GMT -5
Emma Icazontawin was b.1838 and died1895,at age 56 yrs. Her parents Makinyanhotanka(sp) and Wakanhditokcawin,both dead Sp.1 was Itisapa died long ago. sp. 2 wasWakanhdihota-dead. their children were John Smith (d.28 Apr. 1897) husband of Sarah Winona.They wed by ceremony. Sarah remarried to Hemans.John and Saah's children were (1) James Smith(died 1910) husband of Cora RedOwl. They had a son Walter Smith; (2) Della S. Tuttle wife of Henry Tuttle.they had a daughter Flora Tuttle. (3)they also had a daughter Mary(N/A).
Emma's third spouse was Joseph Godfrey,SR. He died in 1909. No children from the marriage. __________________ No the four Smiths you found in the Santee mission Register are not brothers.
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Post by hermin1 on Nov 29, 2012 14:09:14 GMT -5
kermit: You need to learn how to use a scanner. it will come in handy while you are completing your fathers book.
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